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- From: drizzit@eskimo.com (G. Baldwin)
- Subject: Re: Why are europeans dumb enough to buy amigas?
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- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:21:26 GMT
-
- Stephan Schaem (sschaem@teleport.com) wrote:
- : Finn Higgins (finnh@ak.planet.gen.nz) wrote:
-
- : : Don''t you listen to anything anyone says? The CV64 (the only card I have
- : : has experince with) does just that. The whole purpose of the DEVS:monitors
- : : directory is to do just that. You install a new monitor driver, it will
- : : support it. This may sound like a dream for a PC user, but it is reality on
- : : the Amiga.
-
- : Doesn't this card require more then monitors setting info file to work?
- : You have to know that all those card uses hacks really to comeby the]
- : dowfall of intuition/graphics.library, didn't you run some instalation
- : program after you installed the card? to copy lets say file related to
- : cybergraphics?
-
- Actually, the CV64 uses very little in the way of drivers to work.
-
- The CV64 itself does need the CyberGrfx RTG system (hack?) since AmigaOS
- 3.x contains very little to help out RTG boards. It is made mainly of:
-
- Libs:
- CyberGraphics.library
- CyberIntuition.library
- CyberLayers.library
- CyberPGS.library
-
- Env:CyberGraphics/
- Misc flags and monitor freq settings
-
- As for the CV64 itself, all it needs is a monitor driver in
- DEVS:DosDrivers, and for the Environmental flags to be set (unless you
- just want to use it in default 31KHz screenmodes)
-
- : I just want to relate my experience on PC... plug the GFX card...
- : and it just work under dos, windows. You have to give credit for this
- : to the VGA/SVGA standart, such standart do not exist on the amiga.
-
- With DOS, yes. If your card supports VESA screens, then your DOS apps can
- use it in SVGA modes without a problem. But with Windows? No, I don't
- think so. You might be able to get away with using it in 640x480-16c, but
- that is not a SVGA mode - thats VGA. Every video card I have ever seen
- comes with some disks that include drivers for OS/2, Windows 3.0, 3.1, NT,
- ect.. But that is more than even Amiga's can use with their Grfx cards.
-
- : Most card today include alot more then this, so to get full use of the
- : card chipset you install its specific driver.
-
- You do not even get partial use of your video card in Windows in a SVGA
- mode (640x480 in 8-bit or better) w/o a driver, and I don't ever remember
- seeing a VESA driver in my Windows 3.1 driver list. If there is, then you
- are correct.
-
- : BTW, windows do privide a monitor file system... but the smart thing
- : about it is that it describe the monitor :) The video mode are selected
- : from the video card setting and take into account the monitor limitation.
- : (there is also tools to edit/create monitor setting)
-
- The way it picks it out is a lot rougher than AmigaOS. At least AmigaOS
- gives its screenmodes ID numbers. For example, "NTSC:Low Res" is #00011000
- and "Euro72:Very-Low Res" is #00061004. Even CyberGrfx screens have
- ModeIDs. Windows does not. If memory serves correctly, it uses things
- like "LOW" "MID" and "HIGH". Hmm....
-
- : Stephan
-
- Greg Baldwin (drizzit@eskimo.com)
- Amiga junkie and user since 1987 Computer Science & DTV Student
- Commodore64 fan since about 1983 http://www.eskimo.com/~drizzit
- Tyranical EFNet #Amiga Channel Operator "Drizzit"
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